hashtag the cis and their silly conception of how personhood must somehow always be tied to flesh

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People in this interview, including the director of this documentary, keep going on with calling the physical body images of these people the ‘real’ images of these people and oh, buddy,

@millenomi holy fucking shit, do not make me wear my fucking skin on the internet.

@millenomi decades of virtual worlds and even longer on chat rooms have taught me that your physical body ain't got nothing to do with your online representation.

Sadly this isn't just a 'cis' thing, it's an "I've never been in an online public space with a profile picture that wasn't my face" thing - something that was very much started by Facebook.

@polychrome I have to professionally deal with this kind of stuff all the time, and I have yet to find a trans person who doesn’t instantly get it, hence why I was doing the polemic generalization thing.

@polychrome … though the set of trans people I interact carries inherent biases. Still, so does the set of cis people I interact with.

@millenomi trans people do tend to be more open to the idea that the net lets you project your consciousness without your body but the concept is now considered 'old fashioned' and even 'rude' in the manufactured surveillance society we live in, and the bias can be hard for people to shake down.

@millenomi forgot to ask, where is this from? I kinda want to watch the rest of it (while also kinda not :p )

@millenomi if you're interested, you can contrast this documentary and interview with the one made in 2003 about OnLive Traveler (1996).

Traveler was a much more primitive system compared to today that featured floating heads in (typically) surreal VRML landscapes, but it had 3D graphics and voice chat.

The interview is not well edited but it does give an interesting glimpse to VR culture at the time: youtube.com/watch?v=n5ahcFz4iF
(some flashing lights at the beginning)

Corporations used it for promotion for a brief period like they did with Second Life, so we also got some footage from that:
- MTv: youtube.com/watch?v=42ambTxKTc
- Microsoft: youtube.com/watch?v=gB1yWklti7

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> Traveler was a much more primitive system compared to today that featured floating heads in (typically) surreal VRML landscapes, but it had 3D graphics and voice chat.

That reminds me a *lot* about Serial Experiments Lain, I guess it might be where their thing of floating parts (eyes/mouth/…, sometimes full head, lain having full body) comes from.
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